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Ravi Zacharias

Obvious truth content

“The weakness of modern intellectual movements”

“You will know the truth...” and “...the truth will set you free”

“The credibility of the Christian message”

“He died for our sins”

“He is risen from the dead”

Messages that I take

He died for truth

Rising from the dead: speaks to the power present in the world

Human message

“Blessed are…” and “love thy neighbor...” examine “the beam in your eye” ... and the message about who might “cast the first stone”

Universal message

“Jesus Christ has risen from the dead obtains in countless cosmologies”

A recommendation

“Jesus Among Other Gods” by Ravi Zacharias

Thinking about your words about Jesus, here are some ideas. M.

Jesus (who claimed to be one and the same as the Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, namely, the God of the Jewish Bible, is entirely about relationships

When asked (by those trying to trip him up) what the greatest commandment was, he responded that the two greatest are to love the Lord thy God with all one’s heart, mind, and soul, and also to do unto others as one would have them do unto us

Jesus said the whole law given through Moses hangs on these two. (Later, he gave what he called a new commandment - to go even further, to love even one’s enemies)

The focus of Jesus and the entire Bible is God and our relationship with him, not self. The commandment to “love the Lord thy God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.” One can hear that as a one-way commandment, but I hear it as two way, for how can we love him who we don’t know? So God was promising to be a near God, God “Immanuel”, who could be known intimately by us just as we are known intimately by him. That indeed is my experience of him, of Jesus

The relationships in my life that tower now above all else are my relationship with Jesus first, and with my wife Yisraela second

Personal miracles of M.

One time, Yisraela was moving, so I went over to help. We were leaving a room and I hit the light switch off and she said NO (too late) because there was a short in that light switch and the house would lose all power and restarting the oil burner would be a $50 service call. So while we headed for the basement she asked the Lord to not let the oil burner go off - not “fancy” prayingjust a sentence as though talking to a person.  We got to the basement and, though there was no power anywhere else in the house, the oil burner electric motor was still running. No, I didn’t “fall down and worship,” as they say, but I did store it in the I-don’t-understand file. And I did start asking her some questions about this “Lord” and she answered them

She shared scriptures, written long before Jesus, that prophesized of his coming - he’d be born in Bethlehem, of a virgin, would live in order to die for us - to pay the fine that is owed by us - would be born at a certain time, from a certain tribal and family lineage, and so on, there being about 300 such in the Bible. Anyway, I read what she gave me but simply didn’t understand the words, even though with hindsight I can see that they were quite plain

Something that was happening in the spiritual domain, and I did “ask Jesus to come into my heart”, as Yisraela had told me was the step that she had taken. The faith that you mentioned was operating here, if only - faith in Yisraela, for the issue was simple: if she was a reliable witness, then these things - whether I understood them or not - were true; conversely if she were not a reliable witness

Based on my knowledge of her I was clear that she was indeed reliable and I stepped out - really “in faith.” But what happens next is that Jesus does indeed deliver on his promises to come inside us and dine with us

Jesus spoke of wanting us to come to him not as lawyers but as little children, and that is surely how I came. But he doesn’t keep us as little children, and he didn’t give us good minds so that we should be stupid. As the Lord tells us in Isaiah, “Come, let us reason together…”

Jesus had told Yisraela that he would bring a husband to her, that I would be “saved” - a month before it happened. She said she she didn’t WANT to be married again, but in any case she had no idea that the Lord meant me. Well, when I did ask her to marry me she said yes, but had reservations

Within a ceremony at that time  I was having an enlarged prostate and even a thimble full of red wine was enough to completely prevent urination for enough hours for it to be painful in the extreme. And Yisraela knew about that. Nonetheless, she gave me a whole water glass full of wine. Next day, not only didn’t it “kill me dead”; now the condition was even gone!! And it stayed like that for almost two weeks. Then, she asked again, around then, how I was doing, and I told her that it seemed to have returned. She then shared with me about a concern about about marrying me and losing her relationship with the Lord, so she had asked him to make it clear to her that the one he intended for her was me. She told him she would give me the wine, and if I were the one, then he should please keep me from having any ill effects. Then, to be 100% sure, she went back to the Lord and said, Lord, if Michael is the one then give him the condition back again. He did, and she was convinced

M. recounts further miracles. Then:

Anil, the bottom line in the Bible, made clear even in Genesis upon the fall of man through Adam, was that we cannot cover, annul, or cancel our sins by our own works, and that God’s nature is such that he cannot abide amidst sin - one sin or many, small or large, it doesn’t matter

The pre-Jesus Bible makes it clear that God himself would take on flesh to come down, and be the sinless sacrifice for us, to cover our sins past, present and future and to thereby restore us into the relationship the he wants with us and for which he created us. (Sure enough, after Jesus, the Temple was destroyed in 70ad and the sacrificial system was to disappear. Of course -- it was no longer needed

A miracle in M’s research in mathematics. (M. is an excellent applied mathematician)

So, I’ve shared with you not logic or philosophy but my experience of the Lord (the Lord who loves you as much as me). As Paul said in 1 Corinthians (1:19-25): “For it is written, ‘I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent…’ The foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”

Why is the world (universe) beautiful (before we invented telephone poles)? Did it just turn out that way? How can we explain it?

You mention things Jesus said that you like. But realize that you can’t take some of him and discard the rest

He also spoke at length about judgment and hell (though his mission on that occasion was not judgment but to die for us and, by his blood, to seal the new covenant that was promised to us in Jeremiah 31:31-34). The same Jesus as you quoted also said: “I did not come to bring peace but a sword. [The sword meaning the truth] For I have come to set a man against his father [I can attest to the truth of that], a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be  those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. And he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.” (Matthew 10:34-39) This was no peacenik out of the 60s, and it’s interesting to imagine the scene of him throwing the moneychangers out of the Temple because they had set up a market therein.

He also issued a challenge to you all who seek the truth: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.” (John 14:6) “... to him who asks it will be opened” (Matthew 7:8) “Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.” (Matthew 8:14)

He does not say there are many ways and “howsoever”, he says he is the only way and there are no others that lead to life, but only to destruction. And he promises to answer your questions, to open it up to you, if you go to him and ask. I guarantee he will do that

My Response

The nature of death. The boundary of the universe

One question I asked was ‘What is the nature of death?’

The apparently dominant modern secular view, starting from ‘reason’ and science concludes that there is nothing beyond death. Similarly, it is typically concluded that there is nothing beyond the known universe at the boundaries of space, time, size and category. That there is nothing beyond death, is similar to the idea that there is nothing beyond the known universe: the life of the individual is the known personal universe. Once stated, the absolute character of these convictions seems somewhat absurd and these conclusions are not so much stated as tacit: we live as though they are true and they are built into our language and myths (modern cosmolgy.) Any claim that there is nothing beyond the known world is clearly more absurd than a claim that there is something beyond it. The history of knowledge is one of expanding boundaries. If we think of life beyond death as absurd then the fact of our coming into existence is also absurd. What may be questioned is the certain knowledge of life beyond the known

My Theory of Being addresses this question and affirms that I am a speck within the greatest identity; the known universe is a speck within all being

Bridging

One of the thoughts I had in writing was ‘how can I reconcile M’s thinking with mine.’ I believe that a mature Theory of Being (expressed both analytically and in feeling and action) can make a bridge between the different faiths and ways of life and between faith and the secular view. I know, have shown, the bridging to be possible on rational grounds but, of course, do not know whether it will be achieved. The theory itself says that such achievement, on this earth, is possible for a period of time. Naturally, I do not expect that you will think that my effort at reconciliation is reconciliation…

On Beauty

The Theory of Being does say something about the question of beauty. Given sentience, it follows from the conditions of becoming that there will be positive and negative elements in sentience. Some positive elements are labeled beauty. This idea can be developed further from the theory of free vs. bound and inner vs. outer elements of sentience. This shows a necessity to the origin of beauty and the fact that beauty –the beautiful– will have form but does not address the actual form. This is analogous to an explanation of the origin of structure that does not tell us what the actual structures are

[Jesus and Buddha went to nature for inspiration]

But why is there sentience?

It is a mistake to demand that theory explain the origin of sentience. Instead, one observes the empirical fact that there is sentience. I.e. sentience is a label for experience. Then: what is actual is possible and what is possible is materially necessary. Thus there will be sentience in countless though not necessarily all cosmological systems. There is a different line of argument in the document ‘Journey in Being’ that concludes that sentience –of some kind– is as universal as existence but that argument is not as clear cut as the one here

M’s reply

Jesus could not have gone to nature for inspiration

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. If I may make one observation about your reply, I think you said in it that both Jesus and Buddha went to nature for their inspiration. I understand that that reflects your belief that Jesus did not create the universe, for if he did then it wouldn’t be reasonable to say that the creator of nature found inspiration in his creation. I would say to the contrary that Jesus doesn’t fit into anything, he is the “singularity”, the only God, and the only path to redemption

If you live as though what I have said is true then you will discover its truth

Perhaps the parting question might be this: IF the things I’ve said are true, then would you “want them”? If not, then there’d be no point in proceeding any further along this line. But if you would, then I’d suggest as a first reading the book of JOHN - his gospel account which is the fourth book of the New Testament. If you like, you could speak to the Lord first and ask him to remove any veil from your eyes so that you could discern the truth - or whatever you would ask of him

Hi M.

When I read the Bible, I will go, first, as a result of your suggestion, to JOHN

Nature and inspiration

Regarding Jesus’ ‘inspiration,’ my point was that nature is inspiring and that this is found in many stories of inspiration from ancient myth to modern science. I too have found much inspiration in nature. Regarding the logical point, if, e.g., ‘everything’ seeks inspiration where or in what does it do so? If it cannot seek inspiration within itself then it cannot seek inspiration at all. Does this imply that the net inspiration of ‘everything or non-thing’ is zero?

Then, is it truly paradoxical for Jesus to have found inspiration in his creation? I sometimes find inspiration in my creation, i.e., my writing

Additionally, there is a distinction between finding inspiration while in nature and having nature as the source of inspiration. Why did Jesus go to the desert? Does the Bible address this question? Perhaps he went to be away from distraction, to find a place where he could be open to the truth. If this is true, while he did not find inspiration in the forms of nature, it could be said that the simplicity of that form (in contrast to the murky forms of the social world) was the occasion for ‘inspiration’

Scriptures as truth but not the only truth

As I have said, I do hold the Bible as truth but not the only truth

Scripture as truth: early thoughts

Early in life, I came up with ‘proofs’ that ‘God’ did not exist; I did not hold religious scriptures to be true. Later, I came to doubt my earlier convictions. I sought disproofs of my early convictions but did not come up with anything satisfactory.

Scripture as truth: the Theory of Being

Still later, I came to intuit what was a primitive form of my Theory of Being. I lived in this intuitive epistemic state (regarding being) until I arrived at the Theory of Being

According to the Theory of Being, the Biblical account, excepting contradictions, if any, must have truth but not the only significant truth. Further, the literal truth of the Bible is improbable in any given cosmological system; therefore, the significance of the Biblical account must draw from the possibility of the literal truth. This is what the logic of the Theory of Being requires

How can the truth of the Bible be seen? Empirical, piecewise vs. systematic truth

Although I understand the reasoning and experience that is the foundation of the Christian Faith, I do not see how the Bible stands together as an integral document in the sense that if it did so stand, its truth would then be manifest and it would not be necessary to verify every part of the Bible independently! How may the systematic or necessary truth, rather than merely empirical truth, of the Bible as an integral document be seen?

States of Faith

I see four significant possibilities regarding faith: atheism or having no belief; agnosticism or a state of suspended judgment pending logic or revelation; theism – a state of judgment regarding the possibilities i.e. a selection of a system of faith; and liberalism, an open state of perception in which belief is the sum of all truths, or, rather, is on the path to that sum. The last is like quantum superposition states in which systems can be simultaneously ‘up’ and ‘down’